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...various forms. Key aspects of the project will include: - Exhibition of children's artwork— variety in type, including but not limited to paintings, drawings, and sculptures, of rising children artists (there is one artist but the number will gradually grow as the site grows) - Feature short bios for these artists to enrich the viewer experience Ideal candidates should have: - Experience in website creation, preferably involving art galleries - A knack for content writing, especially short artist biographies (thought parents will provide the bulk of the bio information as artist join). - An understanding of what engages viewers on an online art platform You will need to provide an easy to update interface to accommodate new artists and artwork co...

As a budding R&B/hip-hop artist, I'm looking for an experienced individual to guide me through the next steps of my music career. I've officially released close to 50 songs, but they haven't gained the traction I was hoping for. In particular, I need help with: - **Social Media Promotion**: I'm active on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok, posting daily. However, I believe there is still untapped potential in promoting my music on these platforms. I'm looking for strategies to increase my engagement, reach a wider audience, and eventually go viral. - **Artist Branding**: I understand the importance of having a unique and consistent brand as an artist, but I'm struggling to define mine. I need guidance on how to create a strong personal ...

I'm seeking an experienced tattoo artist who specializes in black and gray style to design a large, celestial-themed tattoo for my lower leg. Make it wrap. Start at the foot, wrap around the calf. Up until the knee. The tattoo must encompass the most important elements in my life. My family business - founded in 1916, wooden barrels. Also a gemini sign. My son is a scorpio. My wife an aquarius. Also started a parcel delivery company called xpedigo and now obibox. All this must be encompassed in the tattoo. Must be all in one continuous image that fits on a calf and wraps around the leg. ** Important ** : this is a historic tattoo that represents a timeline. Make it start with old mechanics. (Barrels, old company) and evolve into a tech era and finally, AI (delivery...

I am seeking a creative and talented photoshop artist who can help turn my vision into a reality. I have two pictures; one picture is of a suit of armor that I want incorporated onto a hamster from a second picture. This unique design will be a medium-sized, black and white tattoo, placed on the front of my left shoulder/upper srm. The ideal freelancer for this project should: - Have exemplary photshop design skills - Be experienced in black and white designs - Understand how to merge designs seamlessly - Be able to tailor details to the tattoo's size and location I look forward to collaborating with you and can't wait to see this remarkable tattoo come to life.

I'm in need of a highly skilled drawing artist to create several photorealistic drawings of products I've designed. These drawings will be used as part of my marketing materials and need to be of the highest quality, capturing every detail in a realistic manner. Specific requirements: - Experience with photorealistic drawing is a must. The drawings should look almost like actual photos, with an added artistic touch. - Ability to capture and translate real products into stunning visuals. - Familiarity with marketing and branding, to ensure the drawings serve their purpose effectively. - Willingness to sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) as the products and their designs are confidential. The final deliverables will be used in printed brochures, and will play a...

I have a specific drawing that I would like to be turned into a 3D image. I'm seeking a talented 3D artist who can create a photorealistic 3D rendering of this drawing. Skills: - Proficiency in 3D modeling and rendering - Experience in creating photorealistic visualizations - Ability to work from 2D drawings

I am in the market for an artist who can provide a realistic rendering of a contemporary vehicle, using a vehicle model they already have created, with the catalytic converter highlighted. This is a colorful, yet highly technical and detailed, 3D ghost illustration. Ideal Skills and Qualities: • Proficient with digital illustrating tools • Experience with technical illustrations, particularly automotive-related • Strong understanding of car components, specifically the catalytic converter • Ability to create detailed, colorful artwork This project requires a deep understanding and familiarity with the components of a car, specifically a catalytic converter. Experience with automotive design or engineering would be a significant advantage. Your final output shou...

I'm seeking a skillful digital artist proficient in creating realistic street-art themed illustrations for a unique line of t-shirts I'm developing. Key tasks and requirements include: - Development of realistic digital art designs in a graffiti style - Deliverables must be in an easily editable format suitable for use in t-shirt printing - Demonstrated ability in creating digital artwork with a unique, eye-catching, and urban appeal - Proven experience in similar projects, particularly in designing for apparel - Compliance with all provided specifications, and flexibility to revise designs upon request. Your portfolio showcasing your experience in realistic digital art, particularly grunge or graffiti styles, will significantly benefit your application. This is a fant...

You must be a skilled 3D artist to create a realistic character animation that will be used for my video that will be edited on Wonder Studio. The character must look real. I will share the character I need made with the successful bidder. I will need variations and adjustments of the character made until I am happy with the 3D character design. Send me samples of your realistic characters you have made. See samples of the realistic quality I need: See the link about character requirements. You will need to help me load the finished character into my video on wonder studio and make sure it works perfectly

I'm in search of an accomplished tattoo artist who specializes in minimalist designs. I have two existing pictures that I want expertly combined. The first picture is a depiction of Tin Tim the character. I just want his dog changed to my personal dog which may have to be re sketched. I have many photos for reference. - The design will be placed on my leg. - The freelancer must be able to thoughtfully blend these two pictures into a minimalist tattoo sketch. - I'm looking for someone with an eye for detail and strong familiarity with minimalist sketching styles. Ideal skills for this project will include: - Proficiency in minimalist sketching - Demonstrated ability to creatively combine images - Prior tattoo design experience.

I'm looking for a talented 3D artist who can bring my vision for a traditional interior to life. The purpose of this project is strictly for design visualization, so we can ensure all aspects of the design are harmoniously integrated. Key Project Details: - The renderings should cover the following main areas: the living room, kitchen, 4 seasons room and master bedroom with the ensuite bathroom. - The focus should be on traditional design elements, which will be revealed in more detail upon engagement. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proven track record in 3D interior design - Specialization in traditional design elements - Proficiency in creating realistic visualizations - Strong communication skills to ensure the vision is accurately conveyed - The ability to deliver high-...

I am looking to promote a particular artist/band through engaging TikTok videos. The videos will feature the artist/band's footage but we’re also open to any fun content to help go viral. Your responsibility will include creating innovative, captivating TikTok videos. Ideal freelancers for this job are experienced TikTok content creators with creative ideas.

I am looking for a professional and experienced Hindi voice artist for an audiobook project targeted towards Adults. Key Criteria: - The audiobook is extensive, more than 300 pages - Proficiency in Hindi and an understanding of teenage dialogue would be highly valued - Past experience with Hindi Audible or audiobook narration is necessary Required Skills: - Voice Acting - Audiobook Production - Audio Editing - Experience with teenage-targeted narratives Please provide samples of your previous work along with your bid. I look forward to hearing your captivating voices that can truly bring this story to life for our teenage audience.

I need an English Wikipedia page about an artist's biography in the field of arts. The project involves: - Creating a Wikipedia page in English - Focusing on the biography of a specific artist - Ensuring the content adheres to Wikipedia guidelines and standards Ideal skills for this job include: - Proficiency in English writing, particularly for Wikipedia - Knowledge of the arts and art history - Experience in Wikipedia page creation and editing

I'm in need of a graphic artist who can create 2-3 gif animations for advertising my mechanic business in a game called FiveM. Key Points: - The GIFs should depict the services we offer: repairing, customizing, and upgrading vehicles. - They should visually capture the essence of the game and resonate with its community. - I would like the colour scheme to include Gasoline green, Black, White, and whatever else you think would look good with that. I have attached a gif of a friends business advert that i really like the style of. - Business name is Savage Customs. You can incorporate the logo, or you can just write the name on there in some text of your choice. maybe just text, i use the logo elsewhere. Up to you Ideal Skills: - Experience in creating advertising GIFs is ...

I need an individual who can update my website with an array of physical products. Specifically, these will comprise a selection of paintings and prints/posters. This task will require: - Knowledge on how to upload and set up products effectively on my website. - An understanding of art, particularly paintings and prints, as you will need to write accurate and appealing product descriptions. Ideal candidates would have previous experience in eCommerce, particularly with physical art products. An appreciation for art and excellent attention to detail will be essential for this role.

I'm in need of a skilled 3D artist who can create realistic supplement packaging renders. The renders will be used for the packaging of my products. Key points: - The renders must be highly detailed and very lifelike. - You will need to create multiple views for each product, showcasing different angles of the packaging. - The deliverables should be in a high-resolution format, ready for printing. Being able to consistently deliver high-quality, realistic renders is crucial for this project. Experience in rendering packaging designs for retail products would be a huge plus.

The winner will be paid the $50 prize and selected to illustrate a 32-page children's picture book for an additional $1,500. May involve single-action animation for e-books. Will be published through Amazon KDP with a trim size of 8.5" x 11." My book is aimed at children ages 5 to 8 years old. I ...Understanding of child psychology and what appeals to children in the specified age group - Ability to create engaging, original characters Ideal Skills and Experience: - Strong portfolio featuring previous cartoon-style illustrations - Experience in illustrating for children - An understanding of the children's book market and trends - Ability to take direction and work collaboratively with the author Artist must have clearly labeled examples of children's boo...

I'm currently seeking a skilled database sp...database for a public library to manage books, members, loans, and fines. The database should handle book reservations, track overdue items, and support queries for book availability and member activity. Scenario 15: Music Festival Organization Design a database for organizing music festivals, including artists, stages, schedules, and ticket sales. The system should facilitate lineup planning, manage artist contracts, and handle ticketing logistics Scenario 4: University Accommodation Service Design a database system for a university's accommodation service that manages student housing, room allocations, maintenance requests, and payments. The system should accommodate different housing options and prioritize allocations based ...

I'm looking for a creative and experienced video editor to bring to life a chill and laid-back music video for a track that I'm currently working on. The video will be primarily focused on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, aiming for a video that can be used a short form content (think 10-30 second videos) here's some of my music Key Requirements: - The video should be TikTok and Instagram friendly, with a style that is appealing to the user base of these platforms. - The concept should be relaxed and enjoyable, fitting the theme of a chill laid-back vibe. - The video should also be suitable for sharing on YouTube. If you have experience in creating videos of this nature, and can demonstrate this with a relevant portfolio, I'd love

Hi there, I'm seeking a talented artist to create stylized, realistic versions of four distinct mythological characters and one engaging backdrop. Key requirements for the project are: - Unique & appealing character art, inspired by various mythologies, not limited to Greek, Norse, or Egyptian. - A realistic art style that is far from AI-generated or cartoonish. - A vibrant and detailed backdrop that echoes the mythological theme of the characters. - Timely completion, as this project needs to be expedited as soon as possible. As for your qualifications: - A strong portfolio of character and concept art (please share your past works). - Proficient in creating realistic and creative artwork. - Must be able to work within tight deadlines. It would also be beneficial if...

I'm in need of a talented background artist to create engaging and dynamic cartoonish backgrounds for my 3D animation cartoon YouTube show. - The primary setting of my show is a vibrant and whimsical cartoon world, so I need the backgrounds to reflect this aesthetic. - You should be able to create detailed, colorful and visually appealing backgrounds that bring the cartoon world to life. - Each episode of my show will be 10-15 minutes long, so you should be comfortable creating a variety of backgrounds that can be used throughout each episode. Ideal skills and experience for this job would include: - A strong background in creating cartoonish art. - Experience in creating backgrounds for animation, particularly for longer episodes. - A good understanding of 3D animation a...

I'm seeking a creative, skilled blender artist to conceive and implement a 3D animation for product marketing. The primary objectives of the animation will be: - To entertain while attracting consumers to our product. - Highlight the unique features of our product in a way that intrigues and engages our customers. The successful freelancer: - Has experience working with Blender for 3D animations. - Demonstrates an understanding of marketing strategies and how to incorporate them into animations. - Has a knack for storytelling, being able to turn product features into enthralling visual narratives. Previous work showcasing the ability to animate intricate product features will be positively looked upon. Exceptional attention to detail and a commitment to creating engaging co...

I'm seeking a talented artist capable of singing in Chinese, Arabic, Spanish and Russian. The genre isn't fixed and so I encourage you to showcase your own style. Here's what I'm specifically looking for: - Ability to sing proficiently in all four languages mentioned - Share your previous work while applying. This will demonstrate your experience and capability. Recording Environment: Studio-quality recordings with varied microphones. Requirements: Showcase your singing talent in your preferred genre. Commit to delivering studio-quality recordings. Fluency in one of the specified languages. Willingness to contribute to an innovative project. Though not mandatory, experience in diverse music genres will be highly appreciated as it adds to your versatility. Lo...

I'm looking for a talented vocal artist to create 15-second ads in English for radio. The tone needs to be warm and friendly, ensuring that the ads are engaging and relatable for a teenage audience. Key Requirements: - Native English speaker with a pleasant voice - Prior experience in creating radio ads or similar voiceover work is a plus - Ability to convey warmth and friendliness in your tone - Understanding of teenage culture and preferences Your role will be to bring these ads to life by engaging with the teenage audience effectively. If you have experience in this area or think you have the right skills for the job, I'd love to hear from you.

I'm currently working on a documentary project and in need of a professional voice artist to do the narration. Key requirements for the voiceover: - The role requires an informative tone. The voice should convey the message clearly, making the content easily understandable for the audience. - I'm seeking a voice artist with a neutral accent. The narration should not bear any distinct regional or cultural influences. - The job involves voicing for radio, so the artist should have experience with voiceovers for this medium. This is a great opportunity for a talented voiceover artist to contribute to a documentary project. Please share your portfolio or previous work samples when applying.

I'm in need of a talented Indian voice over artist to bring my promotional video to life. Key Requirements: - Language: English - Tone: Energetic and Upbeat The voice should be engaging, enthusiastic, and capable of capturing the audience's attention. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Previous experience in radio voice overs - Strong understanding of the Young Adult demographic - Ability to deliver high-energy performances - Proven track record of delivering high-quality work on time If you have a dynamic voice and can meet the requirements, I look forward to hearing from you.

I have a 3D dress designed in Clo3D and require a skilled 3D artist to square (retopologize) it for use in Blender. The final model will be utilized in a virtual fashion show, so it needs to be of high quality. Key Tasks: - Retopologize the 3D dress from Clo3D to Blender - Ensure the model is appropriately squared for optimal use in Blender Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in 3D modeling and retopology, particularly in Blender - Experience working with Clo3D and Unity - A portfolio showcasing similar projects in the virtual fashion, or gaming industry The successful freelancer will be able to strike a balance between efficiency and quality, delivering a squared 3D dress with high-resolution textures ready for use in a virtual fashion show.

I'm searching for a talented digital sketch artist who can bring my ideas to life. I'm looking for a simple, black and white style that's more on the cartoonish side. Key Points: - The sketches are intended for personal use, so they don't necessarily need to be overly detailed or elaborate. - The main subject for these sketches will be people. - The style should be simple and clean, yet engaging and creative. Ideal Skills & Experience: - Proficient in digital sketching - Proven track record of creating engaging cartoon style sketches - Able to bring creativity and uniqueness to each sketch - Experience in drawing people in a cartoon style. If you have a knack for cartoon sketches and are looking for a project that allows you to explore this style, I&#...

I'm seeking a talented Blender artist to create an engaging and eye-catching cartoonish animation for an upcoming advertising campaign. Key Responsibilities: - Develop a high-quality, detailed, and dynamic cartoonish animation in Blender that is suitable for advertising purposes. - Implement creative and innovative ideas to ensure the animation is visually appealing and captures the target audience's attention. You should be well-versed in: - 3D modeling and animation using Blender. - Creating animations with a cartoonish style. - Understanding the requirements of advertising and how to tailor animations accordingly.

I'm seeking a skilled 3D artist to create realistic renderings of product images for my catalog. Here's what I need: - High-quality, realistic 3D renderings of product images. Your ability to craft lifelike renderings that accurately showcase product details will be central to this project. - All images should be delivered in JPEG format. Please ensure that the quality of the renderings is preserved during the conversion process. - I prefer a realistic aesthetic for the 3D products. The goal is to make the products look as real and appealing as they would in a physical store. The visuals should evoke trust and excitement in potential customers. To be successful in this job, you should have: - Extensive experience in 3D rendering and digital art. - Portfolio showcasing y...

I'm looking for a talented digital artist to help generate engaging image posts. The perfect fit would be someone with: - Extensive experience in creating visually striking illustrations - Ability to design square images with a dimension of 1080x1080 px Your role involves bringing our content to life with captivating illustrations. Your understanding of visual storytelling will be pivotal to the success of these posts. Those with a knack for impactful design and a creative flair are ideal. Let's create something amazing together with your skills and my direction.

I'm aiming to procure an artist who can use AI technology to enhance a photo of a human face, making it appear more realistic. This enhanced image will be used for a party flyer. The party theme is a tropical birthday party specifically aimed at an adult demographic. Key Requirements: - Enhancing a photo of a human face - Creating a realistic and engaging design - Adapting the design to suit a tropical-themed party flier - Ensuring the design is appealing to an adult audience Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in photo editing and manipulation - Experience with AI technology for image enhancement - Creativity in adapting design to suit specific themes - Understanding of design principles for adult audiences, particularly for party invitations

I'm in need of a talented Web3 developer to work on a decentralized application (dApp) for a DeFi gaming platform. The ideal candidate should be proficient in Smart contract development, Solidity programming, and Blockchain integration. Additionally, skills related to NFTs and art (Web3 artist) are highly desirable for this project. Key Responsibilities: - Develop and deploy smart contracts on the blockchain - Implement and integrate blockchain technology for the dApp - Design and integrate NFTs and other art-related aspects into the platform Functionalities Required: - User authentication - Token trading - Voting system Ideal Skills and Experience: - Previous experience in DeFi or gaming dApp development - Strong knowledge in Smart contract development, Solidity programming...

I am looking for a talented and experienced claymation artist to design a unique, realistic, and engaging human-like character, primarily for entertainment purposes. Key Responsibilities: - Design and create a claymation character that mirrors human characteristics and features - Render the character in a realistic fashion, with attention to detail and accuracy - Should possess an exceptional creative flair, keeping the entertainment value high Ideal Candidate: - Proven expertise in claymation - Strong portfolio demonstrating a focus on realism and detailed work - Exceptional creativity and innovation - Experience in entertainment-centric projects would be favourable Looking forward to witnessing your unique vision for this project!

I'm in need of a long term animation artist who can bring my ideas to life. This project has a great potential for creativity and requires a lot of skill in animation. If you are skilled in 2d/3d animation and are expert is Adobe After effects, Premier pro and other animation design softwares, please feel free to apply to this post. Please include your portfolio link for the 2d animations, 3d animations, explainer videos, Insta reels and any other amazing and convincing work relevant to animation/Video category. Also if possible please indicate your pricing for 2d /3d animations according to required duration of animation. New freelancers are always welcome if they have nice portfolio.

I'm in need of a Realistic Art Illustration for a particular project. The illustration I'm looking for is a crucial component and must be top-notch in terms of quality, precision, and realism. Specifically, I need: - An artist who specializes in Realistic style to create the illustration. - A keen and creative eye to bring this artwork to life. Please share your portfolio showcasing your previous Realistic art illustrations. Your experience in producing similar artwork will be a key factor in my selection process.

I am in need of a skilled graphic artist to craft a minimalist logo for my brand. Details regarding the project are as follows: - Design type: Minimalistic, simplicity is key. - Color Palette: The preference is for warm tones, particularly red. The ideal freelancer will have prior experience designing minimalist logos. Please include examples of relevant design work in your proposal.

I require a skilled artist to create a gorgeous piece of pen work on a large clear glass frame. The frame should be 16x20 inches in size which provides a good amount of space for your creativity. I want the drawing to be line-pen work. More details: I want a drawing of a young girl (whom I will provide a photo of) drawn in line work with a pen, a drawing of her face and hand holding a rose - it will be a real small rose which I will send into you ! Also, I have pieces of broken glass that I want incorporated onto the drawing in a beautiful way, maybe outlining the girl, maybe covering the rose, up to you... Please let me know if you are willing and able! Please include samples of similar work when applying. This project will require both artistic skill and technical precision, so...

I need a talented artist or illustrator to create a beautiful, nature-inspired, and slightly luxurious double-sided welcome card for our glamping site. The card should be informative and aesthetically pleasing. On one side of the card, a map of our campsite featuring: - Restroom and upscale bathroom facilities - Walking trails - Posh loos - Hot showers and dressing rooms - The Beaute Shed (for festival hair and makeup) - Wellness area (for massage and relaxation) - Hot tubs and sauna - Water points - Festival shuttle pick up / drop off point - Communal fire pit - Various types of accommodation (Bell tents, Tipis, Yurts etc.) - Bar and restaurant yurt - Crew camping areas - SIA security base - Main entrance and car park - Local landmarks such as Glastonbury Tor and the Glastonbury ...

We're seeking a talented 3D artist capable of producing captivating photorealistic renders and videos for a range of products. The ideal candidate must excel in rendering techniques, possess meticulous attention to detail, and have the ability to breathe life into products through stunning visual representations. Responsibilities: Create photorealistic 3D models of products. Develop high-quality textures and materials. Render product images and videos using industry-standard software. Collaborate closely with the creative team to ensure alignment with brand guidelines. Optimize renders and videos for various platforms. Requirements: Demonstrated expertise in 3D rendering, modeling, texturing, and lighting. Proficiency in industry-standard 3D software. A strong portfolio sho...

We are seeking a skilled artist or designer to create a sketch based on a collection of images and photos. The project entails transforming these visual references into a cohesive and aesthetically pleasing sketch. The sketches will be used for various purposes, including but not limited to concept art, illustrations, and design prototypes. Image Collection: We will provide a set of images and photos that serve as references for the sketch. Sketch Creation: The freelancer will be responsible for interpreting these images and creating a detailed sketch that captures the essence of the subject matter. The sketch should demonstrate artistic skill and attention to detail. Revision Rounds: We anticipate the need for revision rounds to refine the sketch according to our feedback. The fre...

I would like to have a female voiceover artist who can contribute to a real estate website. The selected candidate will be responsible for recording a short voiceover of approximately 130 words in both Hindi and English. The voiceover should have a pleasant and neutral tone, with minimal modulation, and should be delivered in a clean version without background noise. The budget for this project is negotiable based on the experience and quality of the voiceover artist. Payment will be made upon satisfactory completion of the recordings. Please submit any relevant samples of your past work and your application. Looking forward to your proposals!

I'm seeking a skilled digital artist to consistently create engaging and appealing YouTube thumbnails. Ideal candidate has: - Expertise in AI avatars and digital drawing - Familiarity with YouTube thumbnail aesthetics and design - High level of proficiency with Adobe illustrator or similar software Project details: - Thumbnails should be created in a bold, digital-drawing style, not minimalistic or photographic. - Required image size is 1280x720 pixels. Please keep YouTube's aspects ratio requirements in mind while crafting thumbnails. - Impressive portfolio with relevant experience will be highly appreciated.

I'm looking for a talented artist and designer who can create a unique, stylized manga painting for me. The project involves: - Develop a manga painting with a stylized approach - Ensure design follows good color aspects while incorporating originality and creativity Ideal Skills and Experience: - Knowledge of painting and design - Experience with manga or anime art - Ability to create unique, stylized versions of artwork - Strong understanding of manga art aesthetics

I'm seeking a skilled graphic designer to craft a personal logo with a modern aesthetic. The ideal artist should have experience in modern design trends and a keen eye for balance and visual appeal. The logo should predominantly feature the colors white, black, and yellow. I'm open to all creative impulses within this color scheme and style. Knowing how to use these elements together effectively will be key. A knack for communication and quick turnarounds will be highly appreciated.

I need a Caricature artist to be at our stand for a Vetinarary event in the NEC Birmingham. We'd need them from 10am - 3.30/4pm each day Also to be able to draw fairly rapidly so around 5 - 7 mins per caricature.

Hi Michael N., I noticed your profile and would like to offer you my project. We can discuss any details over chat. I am looking for a freelance voice-over artist to record a script for a project. Clear and professional voice Ability to deliver files in [MP3] Deadline: As soon as possible

Hi Michael N., I noticed your profile and would like to offer you my project. We can discuss any details over chat. I am looking for a freelance voice-over artist to record a script for a project. Clear and professional voice Ability to deliver files in [MP3] Deadline: As soon as possible

I am seeking an artist adept at producing realistic caricatures who can capture a scene involving a woman and a dog in a sports car. The important elements of the project are: - The Style: It should be in a realistic format, but the mood and tone needs to be a little mischievous to reflect the uniqueness of this fabulous 50th birthday celebration. - The Emotion: Although the piece should be realistic, it should embody mischievousness. It's not just a portrait; it's character depiction imbued with a touch of playful audacity. - The Focus: The main focus of the caricature should be the woman while ensuring the dog and lambourgini sports car still maintain significant roles in the composition. The ideal candidate would be adept in creating lifelike caricatures and underst...